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06/25/2008 4:50 AM Alert 

Hi, can you help me with a small problem? Im using Wilcom ES65 with a Barudan 6 head emb machine (quite old), we have just started up and only done a couple of orders so far, im very new to embroidery and have learnt the basic bits from the online manual, someone has come in with a sample which has some vert tiny lettering on a work overall, ive tried to shrink our sample down but the lettering looks really scruffy, is there something i should be doing when going very small with letters? If you could explain in as much detail as possible it would be great.

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06/25/2008 5:04 AM Alert 
Hi Munchie,

small lettering is a challenge and digitizing is not explained with a few words.

How small is the lettering? If it is between 4 to 6 mm you should try to use a Wilcom font for this size, there are several amongst the Wilcom fonts, most of them start with sm...... Further you can refer to the Online manual under Alphabetes in the Appenices and look for the lettering size suggested.

I you use 60wt thread for lettering, the other fonts may work down to 5 or 4 mm.

To get an idea how small letters should look on-screen I suggest you just type a word like "WOLKE" (it's German and means cloud, but I use to explain it since there are different directions in the lettering) and assign once Block2 at 6 mm heigt, copy it and assign smBlock2 at the same hight, align both objects to the bottom line, drawn a guide line where the lettering sits on and you will notice a difference in the length of different letters, the samller the lettering is, the more difference is necessary.

The measurements I gave relate to capital letters. Do not use lower case letters or look for the one with the minimal height and decide, whether the lettering is stitchable at all.

There are some more issues to think about. The quickest way to learn to produce small lettering would be attending a class especially focusing on small lettering.

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06/25/2008 6:04 AM Alert 

Thanks for your reply, i can see the difference in the height from the 2 words. I read on here about the push and pull effect earlier.

Should i be altering the pull compensation if i go small? Its every letter that looks scruffy not just the height of the letters. my machine should be able to cope with it shouldn't it?

Where would i find a class for small lettering?

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06/25/2008 7:30 AM Alert 
Hi Munchie,

adding pull comp might work in the one or other case, but it's also a matter of digitizing. Unfortunately in embroidery there are no absolut recipes - quite often you will hear: it depends. A sentence I hated when I started embroidery but it's the truth. So many factors, like fabric, backing, type of thread, tension, digitizing ........... are involved and collecting one's own experience is a necessity. And one good teacher is trial and error.

If you click on training on the top of this page you will be directed to several types of training. There are also training schools listed so that you might find one in your area. But some also offer online-training - just have a look on their websites.

Barudans are known to be reliable machines but of course the performance is also a matter of maintenance in the past and actual adjustments.

Good luck

Barbara
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06/25/2008 9:10 PM Alert 

hello

The age of the machine is important. Maintenance plays some part in its condition, but even with maintenance, the internal wear on parts decreases the level of accuracy...so, if using quite old machinery, you may need to used some settings, relevant to what works best on that machine.

You should however be aware that high quality small lettering results that can be obtained on new machines may not really be possible , but you can get acceptable results, and you can also assess what minimum works ok on your machine.

The design, backing, fabric used , tensions, hooping etc all come into play. On older machines, a bit of play in the framing system can also add to probs.

If you have a scan of your result, and the design used, I can take a look for you..no problemo. Its possible to come up with some average settings , specifically for your machine use..but as Barb says, it depends..lol..That is exactly true of embroidery.

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06/26/2008 5:56 AM Alert 

Cheers guys, i'll try a sample this evening and try and post up a copy, are there any ideal fonts to be using?

I think were using madeira classic No40 threads

The company we bought the machine from had the machine serviced by barudanUK during the time they had it so hopefully it should be in good order, my partner works on the exact same machine at her place of employment and her boss isn't good with small lettering either, he has an early wilcom program.

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06/28/2008 9:31 PM Alert 
Hi everyone I`m pretty new to all this,I got me a Happy 12 thread machine,6 months ago & have been using it for caps 7 polos with Flag Designs only but now want to venture into writing etc.. but, I`ve found the program im using was produced in 2003,& there are only a limited amount of fonts,I`ve lost out on 2 jobs this past week because we have been unable to match the fonts on their existing shirts,
Please can anyone recomend where to get a fonts progam ? or does anyone have files for fonts they could mail to me :-) info@pridecolours.net
any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated, I`m really struggling here as i cant seem to find any information with reference to fonts,
many thanks.....David @ pridecolours.com
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06/30/2008 8:02 AM Alert 
Hi David,

even you are on an elder ES version you can alter your fonts without loosing the comfort of an lettering object quite easily to match it with the customer's font. Either sign up for an ES-training or take your manual and study the whole lettering chapter. Afterwards you will have learned how easy it is to adjust ES fonts.

Barbara
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