folivio 
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| 05/30/2008 5:07 AM |
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Is there a way to lock a Colorway(s)? I would like to be able to create a few custom Colorways and lock them so that when I open an existing file it doesn't change the colors in the Colorway.
We have years of EMB files that use the default Colorway 1. Over the years we've just changed the colors in the default Colorway to what we wanted and of course the Colorway was saved with the file. We want to define 6 or 8 specific Colorways that specify the exact thread to be used and have the Colorway color number corespond to the needle number. This way we can better control the job from digitizing to stitching.
Right now we have to recreate our custom Colorways everytime we open an existing file or cut and paste from one file to another.
Any ideas?
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logopunch
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| 05/30/2008 5:40 AM |
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HI Frank,
If you set your colour bar up as you want it then save as a template, this should do the job for you.
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folivio
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| 05/30/2008 5:55 AM |
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John,
Thanks for the quick reply. I did exactly as you suggest, but it only holds the colorway when I start a new file. If I open an existing file and then copy and paste it into a new file, it changes the colors in my colorway to what was saved with the file but it doesn't change the name of my custom colorway. Very strange...
I could deal with it if my colorway would remian unchanged when I paste an image from another file. I could just reassign the colors as needed, but it actually changes the colors in my colorway when I paste an image from another file. Of course, the best thing would be make it an option when opening or pasting a file that the user can select weather to replace the exsisting colorway with the one saved in the file, or ignore the colorway saved with the file and use the currently selected colorway, or append the colors to the current colorway, or add the colorway saved with the file as an additional colorway in my document. Whew! Does that make sense?
I come from a graphic design background and color palette control is just something I take for granted.
Thanks for your valued input.
Frank Olivio
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basabi
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| 05/30/2008 6:34 AM |
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Frank, probably this could be a workaround for you:
Set up a design with as many objects as your colorway contains and asign each color ones. Save it as normal emb-file. close it.
Open a fresh design and first import your "colorway-design". Your colors are placed in the color bar starting at no. 1. Import another design where exactly the same colors where applied earlier in ES. Now, your colors should stay as they where in your "old" emb-file - only not yet excisting colors are added to the palette. But be sure, to keep your "dummy-objects" until you finish. If you would delete one or all dummy objects at once, the color palette stays but all "vacant" color buttons will then be overwritten by colors from the imported design. Hope, it makes sence, what I am try to explain here. |
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| 05/30/2008 7:35 AM |
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HI Frank,
Yes the colours are attached to the file so any colour palette will be overwritten with the correct file colours when you paste to a prepared template.
But I am not sure I understand your problem. If you want every design to conform to a series of colour templates based on thread colour/needle position, this would mean you have to digitise in a sequence determined by the template you are using.
Maybe I have to think about this more but seems to me to be an awkward way to go about it. I am looking at a dozen designs in my database and all would require a different template to keep the correct colours.
Ah I think the penny has dropped. See if I am on the right track here.
Let's assume most designs have less than 8 colours.
Make a design template with as many colours as you like but set the first 8 to white or a colour of your choosing and set up the remaining colours ( as many as you require) in your preferred colours. Open the file whose colour you wish to change and copy and paste it into the new template. the design colours will occupy the first positions and the remainder of the colours will be available to assign to the respective elements and objects of your design, then you would be able to compress the colours and save the file.
I hope this helps
John
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| 05/30/2008 10:52 PM |
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Posted By folivio on 05/30/2008 5:55 AM
I could deal with it if my colorway would remian unchanged when I paste an image from another file. I could just reassign the colors as needed, but it actually changes the colors in my colorway when I paste an image from another file. Of course, the best thing would be make it an option when opening or pasting a file that the user can select weather to replace the exsisting colorway with the one saved in the file, or ignore the colorway saved with the file and use the currently selected colorway, or append the colors to the current colorway, or add the colorway saved with the file as an additional colorway in my document. Whew! Does that make sense?
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If I understand you correctly, then there IS actually an option which does what you want.
I'm assuming you have ES 2006... in this case, from the main menu
- click Special->Options
- click on the General Tab
In the top right corner, there is a groupbox for "Insert Embroidery File" with 2 options. If you select "Match To Palette", then when you insert an existing design into a new design, it will not change the colorway. Instead, the software will try to match the colors of your existing design to the colors that are already there.
Does this help?
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folivio
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| 05/30/2008 11:57 PM |
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Thanks everyone. All really good ideas.
The one that works the best for what we are trying to do, is the suggestion from Delfius. Although, Barbara's approach worked beautifully, the small change in the General Options will do the trick.
We will just need to adjust our workflow from opening older files to inserting or copy/paste them.
Again, thanks to all of you. I couldn't be more pleased with the result of my question.
Frank Olivio
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| 05/31/2008 12:09 AM |
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Hi Frank,
fine, that my workaround worked for you but honestly initially I believed, that you are an ES and DecoStudio user and asked for how to manage to keep your color palette of designs done in ES and later imported into DecoStudio. I guess, the last days it was too much toggling between both programs her on my side. After reading Delfius' and your last post, I realized that my assumption was wrong. In ES it is much more easy with this little checkbox as Delfius explained.
Hopefully i did not confuse too many listers ......
Happy Weekend to all (it's getting hot here the next days - time for a break) summer is approaching on this side of the globe |
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| 05/31/2008 12:34 AM |
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Barbara,
I see from your other posts that you use DecoStudio. Can you tell me which level of Wilcom ES is included?
We use ES-65 for our designers and lower levels for our other employees based on the needs of their job function.
We also use CorelDraw extensively and are wondering if it would be functional for us to purchase for our Designers.
Frank Olivio
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| 05/31/2008 1:13 AM |
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Hi Frank,
as experienced digitizer you or your staff probably will feel limited using DS. Even though I work and train ES 2006 and work daily with DesignWorkflow sometimes, especially for relatively simple designs I try out to either vectorize or import vector drawing in the Corel part of DS, let it automatically convert then and do the fine tuning in the embroidery part of DS. Some things work out much more faster than Corel Draw combined with ES. The only thing to think about when crating a desing in DS which shall be opened in ES for finetuning issues, which you as digizer might want, is not only to save to emb, but also to embV2006. The file format of DS is one step ahead. I assume, as soon as ES is released in a future version, this will be no issue anymore. I have some ES customers on my list, who think about adding a DecoStudio license for their front store biz as soon as the mulit-language version is available. The underlay of lettering is more advance, e.g. edge run does not run just inside each segment of a letter but traces the shape of the letter. TTF conversion out off Corel lettering tool works out fine and now also vector objects of letter shape can either be converted by turning Tatami or TTF-conversion based. Imagine, you have a vector drawing of a shape and here on top is another smaller one and a third again here on top. In ES you probably would digitize three objects either with punching a whole in the bottom layer/s instantly or by removing overlay later. In DS coming from a vector graphic you even do not need to use your shaping tools of Corel Draw beforehand, you just highlight all vector objects to be converted to embroidery, click convert and you are done. The bottom objects will have a hole with enough overlapping and the charming thing, now you can edit the nodes of the embroidery objects as you do in ES, no further conversion from vector to embroidery object in case the shape did not match with what you wanted it to be.
I am sure it can be a helper for creating simple designs quickly without having a life long digitizing experience background, probably a teaser for beginners who later want more.
My understanding of DS is, that it is a great opportunity for people coming from the graphics area, knowing how to handle Corel Draw and who want to offer also embroidery with good quality in their shop without having to learn a lot about the new materials used in the first go.
For the time beeing DS works with Corel X3 and also comes with the whole Graphic Suite. DS Embroidery part needs the dongle, but the other Corel parts run without.
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