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Onrie 
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| 03/07/2008 2:25 AM |
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I visited the Wilcom booth at the ISS Show at Orlando last month. I was told by one of the Wilcom reps that Wilcom is coming out with their version of a Wilcom driven Corel Draw program as an add on / upgrade to the current version of ES 65. I have also seen emails about a Wilcom/Corel Draw product for about $2,000. Is just another version of Wings? How about some insight Brendan. When, how much, etc.
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Maritha
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| 03/07/2008 6:46 AM |
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You are talking about DecoStudio that is costing $2000.- and is together with CorelDraw X3 and is a program that stands on its own as far as Digitizing goes. I think it is a better program than Wings, that I have seen, that is no longer available as an add on to CorelDraw X3 as far as I know.
I would like to see that Wilcom upgrades its ES65 with the same posibilities of the use of CorelDraw I think that would be much better. But for people who don't have the ES65 and want some easy digitizing posibilities and who are good in working with CorelDraw and are getting the correct artwork DecoStudio is a very nice program for the price.
Who ever buys the DecoStudio needs to have a very fast and updated computer. I have a computer with Windows XP which I run my Wilcom Version 2006 on without problems but am not able to read what is on the DecoStudio disc. So I can not even try to instal this on my regular computer I work with. I was however able to instal it on my laptop which is a 2GHz computer but I feel that it is way too slow getting things from artform into a digitized form. I am wondering if this is because the program is more based on the use of Vista instead of Windows XP |
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Onrie
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| 03/08/2008 2:28 AM |
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Maritha, I have ES 2006 (65). I also have Corel Draw 11 and 12. I bought some training CD's at one of the shows to learn how to use Corel for the purpose of cleaning up my artwork for Wilcom. I have been watching and working with the first CD (about 2 hours in length). By the time I get to the end of the 2 hour session, I need to go back for a refresher. I haven't even touched the other 5 or so CDs. There are so many tools and options in Corel, it will take me a long time to master. On the other hand, I have come a long way in Wilcom. My wife and I run an embroidery shop and I stay busy trying to keep up with the in coming work. It is hard to find the time to sit down and go through the training CDs. I can't imagine a program that combines the Wilcom and Corel Draw making things easier. If I am having so much trouble learning Corel Draw, then the combination of the two would be even more difficult. I hope this is not the case. I would like to see it.
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starwhizz777
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| 03/08/2008 5:40 AM |
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hello
I think Onrie's feelings on the subject will be felt by many, because that in a nutshell is the truth about graphics,and artwork. The chance of getting clean art in the industry is rare. Up 'til today, most graphics are either from older scanned embroidery,handdrawn art,animations,video clips,
people preparing rough collages from magazine cuttingss,images off the web( 72/96 dpi..ok for web..not the digitizers friend),faxes, photos ( which are usually skew or off perspective), cap and garment scans, and in general most are just jpeg/tiff/bmp images.
'Cleaning' up such art is no small task ,and really in the scheme of things creating clean art is not only time-consuming, but serves no practical purpose unless you need to use the vector graphic for other purposes such as screenprints/transfers etc in which case it may be ok to work the vector art in full. For digitizing purposes, images really serve as just a guide backdrop,and are usually discarded, so if you factor in what goes into 'vectorising' art and preparing it just to digitize, or even 'autoconvert' you may have priced yourself out of the embroidery game in just that stage.
The ES65 has the ability to convert vectors to stitches,and thats been around for a while , with additional features like Point & Click etc..
Fact: The learning curve on corel, is in a word 'acute'. I know people that have owned and used the various versions for years now,and only know the basics of setting up some text..adding letters to some clipart etc.
Clipart: There are probably millions of vector clipart images, but only simple stuff might be found convenient for autoconversions. Those familiar with clipart in general, will tell you that even with that, in vector form requires knowledge of embroidery and its processes to make successful conversions, then there is the other matter of making that a 'productive running design'.
People may find problems with memory draw on computers in general. This is because graphics computations are always high processor use, so yes, you need an extremely capable computer system to be handling the memory swaps. Consider also that most in general have games,view dvd,enjoy music ,and are constantly browsing..apart from other programs you may have. On average your computer is handling approx 70 processes including things you dont see in the background. The average user may have a minimum of 4 programs open at any given time.
Something to consider: Do you have the time to run your business productively,and take dual classes at the same time, considering if youre taking classes for graphics,and digitizing ?
The one thing about embroidery that frustrates many, is that there are oftentimes no set 'rule' to doing things,and every little aspect of a design is affected by numerous factors that have to all be weighed up simultaneously to produce good work. What you may learn on one day,may be totally refuted on another, depending on a design circumstance,or fabric condition and it requires you to be making these decisions on the fly ,as you go along with your designwork.
Another fundamental of embroidery, is that something that can seem very 'simple' , usually isn't. Embroidery is something that is a high artform,and needs to be practiced continually to become proficient.
I have seen a great many people preparing art and have seen how painstakingly the time is spent. Its ok if you are the hobbyist type, but once you enter the arena of production based embroidery, time/necessity takes on a whole new meaning. Autodigitizing may have the optical effect of seeming 'quick' but the reality of productivity based output is a whole different thing. In the hands of the skilled user, part of the procedures do have a place, but overall, to create a production based design does require skill,knowledge,and experience.
Any digitizer worth their salt in the industry would tell people that autodigitizing procedures do have a place in the industry , but as a platform to creating parts of designs..in some cases helpful,in others just time wastage. If youre told anything different, that would be a LIE...but then again, sales is seldom about truth..lol
I have the problem of Wilcom depleting the ram on my computer..Its manageable,but requires a restart a couple of times a day. Others may be experiencing similar problems..I have heard of some cases...so, the combined use of 2 graphics intensive programs automatically creates a swap/memory stack problem...so, one needs to consider just how powerful their computer needs to be.
I work in embroidery software developments myself, so am familar with some of the rants and raves behind function/memory resouce/capabilities etc..Its all very fun and interesting ,but also time consuming and frustrating..
seeyaa
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Maritha
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| 03/08/2008 8:16 AM |
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Onrie
I have been playing with this DecoStudio and I feel that it is of course too limited. But just like if you would do in ES65 you need to really look at the order because I found out it jumps all over the place. I have not done much yet but was wondering how I know that there are tie-offs and trims and if there are if I can change them. I also see things that I don't like and have no idea how to change them.
I like the way you can shape a word in a different way than in ES65 but I may not like the way it converts it to stitches. I would like to know how they will be incorporating Corel Draw into the ES65 because that could be much better but for sure you need to know the Corel program real well and feel comfortable enough so you don't waste too much time with it. |
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| 03/13/2008 12:11 AM |
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Issues with memory when using Corel or any other program are for some
difficult to understand because of resident programs running in the
background chewing up resources without your knowledge. There is a
whole lot going on that we don't have an ocassion to see. Microsoft has
an application available at there site that is an excellent assist for
this problem. It's name is "Procedurexpdt.exe" and it is available free
as a download. It shows all the programs that are running in the
background and who the originator is and when you trim your number down
to about 30 your machine acts like it has had a steroid shot and is
strong again. Every time the machine restarts (reboots) this gleening
process has to be repeted but the benefits are worth it. If you
remove more than you should the machine dies and has to be restarted
again and the process repeted. Keep a record of what proves to be
unnecessary activity and you can clean house in just moments.
Dennis
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Onrie
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| 03/13/2008 7:06 AM |
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I went to the Microsoft site and I did a search on "Procedurexpdt.exe". Couldn't find it. Are you sure about the spelling?
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starwhizz777
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| 03/13/2008 5:06 PM |
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hi
You can also just use the onboard Windows Task Manager ( Ctrl+Alt+Delete and it'll pop up in win xp)
You can have a look at Processes and that'll give you an indicator of the CPU usage..
Downloading another program to check CPU usage, adds to your CPU strains..lol
Its possible to identify/terminate problematic processes there, but you need to figure out what necessarily needs to run in the background.
The drains experienced with graphic programs in general , or combined use of graphics oriented programs , does cause strain in general , and may only go away in time, with more powerful processors coming around and maybe 64bit programs..
Some stuff works great on Vista, but other general drawbacks have seen many switch back to XP and it'll probably be some time before Vista smooths out..
The simple things one can do, are to try to keep the registry clean, not have unnecessary programs installed , not download and install/uninstall too many programs (over time this can clutter up the registry and cause slowdowns), delete all unnecessary files each week. You can create your Restore point , then delete all prior restore points except the last ( R/Click your C drive icon >>Properties >>Disk Cleanup. Then go to More Options. See System Restore - Cleanup)
See that the Recycle bin is emptied often enough.
These are a few simple things you can do.
Remember, it doesnt mean because you have a huge harddrive, that the computer is 'fast'.
Something thats handy is to have a smaller harddrive (Main C:/) with a good processor/graphics card etc..and to add and external usb harddrive..you can even have 2. So, you store stuff like your family pics/personal stuff/thngs you dont really access often..on those drives.
What I did, is get 2 external drives. One remains 'on'..the other is 'off',and I switch that on to transfer info as I need. I did that in case theres a powerspike, or some prob, so that the drive thats 'off' can remain unaffected..
This basically keeps the C:/ drive relatively 'free'..
Nothing is foolproof, but it helps.
seeya
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DennisGladx
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| 03/15/2008 1:41 AM |
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Onrie. 
This is the file path to get the Microsoft utility:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/cb56073f-62a3-4ed8-9dd6-40c84cb9e2f5.apsx
I have double checked the path to check my self and not passout bad
information.
Sorry if it was sounding misleading and too easy to
get to.
This utility was published in a tech mag for one month and then the
utility disappeared from the site and was re-located at this microsoft
-technet site.
On my visit this morning it was listed as the top of the most popular 10 downloads.
This site is a goldmine of microsoft utilities.....enjoy
Dennis
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