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rama.

hi ryan,

i completly agree with you,regarding the pricing of digitizing.

but what are the measures of pricing a digitized design as some design take much time with less stitch.

i think,people who want quality,price is not a matter for them but should be reasonable.

rama.  

dear ryan,

yes,regular customer who know the quality of digitizing pay by timespent,you not sure till you work out a particular design & if you deliver quality output,you got more works in future.

i also agree with you"Quality wins over Price, 9 out of 10 times" it also save production time from 10% to 20%.you write"If someone doesn't want to pay for superior digitizing send it to India." means quality digitizing only done out side india? or else please clearify.

sincerly,

rama.

hi

I think most embroiderers are unaware that 80-90% of digitizing software in India and China is pirated,which is why prices are  cheap. Nobody that has made the proper investments in their system setups can really charge such low prices.

When u see '24 hour turnaround..20 digitizers on staff' etc..Most dont do the math..Factor in:

Premises..internet connectivity..salaries. Then ,most say you can get your design in any native format..so, that'd mean Pulse /Wilcom/Compucon native formats..how many sets of software would that require? Perhaps 10-12..then theres the graphics software..altogether approx $300k worth of software..then there are the computer systems..and utility bills..In some places, there is more than $1 million worth of contraband in each 'setup' .

Have the people you deal with made any such 'investment'?  Commonsense should tell you 'No way'. One can walk into India today,and almost every co would have pirated embroidery software. Sme make the argument that these co's are 'streamlined and efficient' which is why that can charge low prices..but the reality is very different. I have a friend thats in the foreign security services,based in Delhi...and he travels to China..Singapore..Malaysia etc often.and he's done some first hand research for me..so, what I say isnt just something I imagined up..

Hardly anyone cares to know that Chinese operations of such nature are a big part of 'organised crime'..and all the $20's and $15's go into major drug operations that keep the substances flowing into all countries...Nobody looks at where their money is going..all they see is 'cheap prices and quick $$'..but when a kid overdoses..or something similar happens close to home,then people wanna get all heartbroken,and weep..wondering how young lives are being snuffed out...but not realising that its their own money thats helping the syndicates.

This is not to say that nobody has made mistakes in life, or made a wrong move here or there..The difference is, correcting a mindset. If you know youre doing the wrong thing, stop doing it.

Not everyone knows that dealing in India is a lot about backhand cash, and 'white money' ,and the reason why lots of foreigncurrencies now flow there untaxed etc, is because of multiple fraudulent receivers of cash via Western Union, Xoom etc..so,earning non-taxed money also contributes to being able to offer 'cheap' prices. Legitimate businesses in most places are taxed at 35-50% in taxes.

Software companies are also to blame,because they prosecute selectively..The real big fish are many times the bosses of big embroidery operations..but they dont get prosecuted..they get a piddly 'cease and desist' letter..or sometimes nothing at all happens. Software gets all loud, but dont prosecute the big guys, because 'it'll hurt their biz'..

All in all, there are numerous factors that contribute to the downturn in markets ,but maybe the industries will start to reinvent themselves,and maybe some education will help the 2 bit embroidery mongers that hunt for $10-$15 deals on work that takes hours.

Its a matter that infuriates many,and has seen many digitizers go out of business, but things can only change when people begin to learn the realities behind the many dodgy operations. Reality only strikes when someone is a victim of the many facets of organised crime..One might think..'we're just embroiderers..whats cocaine and designer drugs have to do with us?'...thats the simplistic thinking thats allowed the problem to expand. The other part is just plain greed. Its the same reason many people get hooked in scams..

When will people learn?? Maybe never, but it is possible for an industry thats properly educated, to survive. As long as the source of piracy etc is receiving a feed,it'll be around.

Changing things means cutting off that $ feed ..

bye

Nevi

Hello

The stitching price per 1000 stitches will vary from area to area , depending on the economics of that town. You'll need to do some local research on what the average prices are ,and then tailor your own prices.

If you are doing some specific niche embroidery , its possible for you to command higher prices , but if youre doing what others closeby are doing, then you may have to have competitive pricing. You can set yourself apart by doing outstanding work, and become known for what you produce.

The price per 1000 st is a relative thing, so no price you get may fit your needs. You need to create your own formula on average, by considering your thread use/machine speed/power usage/backings used etc..and work out maybe a profitable rate per hour of machine use. If you come up with a formula, then you can always tailor it as you go along, but you will have covered the basic amont that you need to make per hour of machine use, to become profitable.

The number of machine heads you have also influences prices.

You can visit a few local embroidery shops , and try to get price lists,and compare the averages , but there is no set rule for pricing per 1000 stitches.

bye

Nevi

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There is an excellent article What Do I Charge? Are You Selling It Or Giving It Away? by Jimmy Lamb on the Hirsch International website.

You might want to subscribe to Stitches, a free embroidery business trade publication. There is always a spotlight article on a business with professional assessing what can be done better to enhance profitability, as well as a host of other articles and resources. The website is stitches.com. The editor Nicole Rollender is proactive and has started a blog of embroiderers. Check it out!

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I am a stranger to embroidery ,but I want to know more about it ，because I am doing the trading business with clothes.If I know more about it ,that will help me so much.

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hi

Little heads up if you need to stay competitive..on the font side of things.

I work with a few companies. I'd suggest that you price by complexity. It's something that you have to do for yourself, considering the micro economics of your neighborhood. Many times, I see people just sput out their prices, then you fond someone in another city wondering why they cannot command that price structure. You need to reassess your business plan.

Also, you need to really have the most streamlined designs when running your production. Try to avoid big designs, and go for the faster runs. Tying your machines down with 100k designs will leave you very much less time to be more productive if you are a small operation. You also need to convince clients to omit certain stuff where you see it could cause snags in your production time, or make things less profitable than they can be.