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Subject: Text Issue

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alancregeenUser is Offline
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20 Jun 2008 10:23 PM Alert 
How do you take out the connecting thread between lettering in DecoStudio?
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21 Jun 2008 6:56 AM Alert 
Hi,

the connectors in DecoStudio inside and after an object are presets of the SW which you can't manipulate.

If you can't live with the connectors in one or the other case, you can write with single letter lettering objects and select every second letter (e.g. abcde you would select acedb stitching order). Every letter will be tied and trimmed this way, but make sure that the tie off does not irritate the look more than a connector. Sometimes the design looks smoother with connectors than with many ties especially in narrow columns.

HTH

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21 Jun 2008 7:17 AM Alert 
Hhhmm

I had the same problem with different software when i first had the machine, and this was solved by a setting on the machine to do with dst stitch size.

Also i cant live with the connectors as i have had work rejected because of this in the past so need to eliminate it totally.

If this is fixed into the software i think this is very poor as the help and description show text without the connectors and £1750 is far to expensive for a tool that doesnt do what it says.

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23 Jun 2008 1:35 AM Alert 
I was wondering about the connectors myself. I spent a lot of time clipping them out and was not happy about that. When you say they are part of the presets, do you mean when we choose which machine we are using when the software first starts up? For example if we are using a Brother machine, we have to select Melco and create a machine type/setting for the Brother machine. Is this where the presets come from? Are there any presets that don't have the small connector stitches?

Can we get around these connectors by making each letter a separate object when we create our text? I remember in DRAWings there was a selection called "break apart text" (or something like that) that made each letter a separate object and eliminated the connectors/jump stitches. Is there anything like that in Deco Studio? If not, that should be incorporated into the program. We can't spend hours clipping away at tiny stitches!
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23 Jun 2008 2:19 AM Alert 
The presets are not guided by the various machine formats available but are built-in presets for fresh design windows.

Breaking apart text with no connectors but tie offs/trims will work as per my comment earlier in this thread.

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28 Jun 2008 8:23 AM Alert 
Thanks basabi

I understand what you are saying but i think the point is what is the point of a text tool that doesnt work as shown on the box.

I have had work rejected because of this and not big enough to purchase ES64 which does allow you to set trims to stop this issue.

If it is a preset then can the preset be altered?
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30 Jun 2008 10:06 PM Alert 
Hmm... actually, I can think of TWO reasons why your connectors aren't being trimmed between letters, and ONE of them is alterable.

1) Connector Properties
2) Machine Format / Settings

The Connector Properties (this is what Basabi is describing) dictates that a connector inside a lettering object is is flagged to be trimmed if it exceeds a certain length. But the threshold is quite low (like 2mm or something), so it's likely that most, if not all, of your connectors get flagged for trim.

e.g. So, if you have a tiny connector (say, 1mm) it wont get trimmed by default. But this is not necessarily a bad thing (maybe even a good thing depending on who you're talking to).

The other reason, Machine Format and Settings, CAN also cause your machine to not trim. Many embroidery machines (and their associated stitch formats) do not have an explicit "code" to tell them exactly when to trim. But instead, they trim when they see a certain number of consecutive "jumps" (e.g. Tajima machine, or a Janome MB-4). The exact number varies between machines, and the encoding varies between machine formats. If your machine trims "by jumps" and you don't have enough jumps, it wont trim. Also, if you have the wrong machine format selected, the "by jumps" value in your Machine Format Values may get ignored.

e.g. Your machine is set to trim on 4 jumps, but your Machine Format Values is set to trim on 3. A 5mm connector would normally have 0 jumps because it so short that it can be done with a single stitch. But it's a lettering connector longer than the preset, so it gets flagged to trim. The software artificially inserts 3 jumps because that's what's specified in the machine format. But it's not enough for your machine to actually trim.

To resolve the machine format issue:
a) Select the correct Machine Format matching the file type of the file being sent to the machine b) If your machine trims by jumps, make sure the Machine Format Values matches the setting on your machine

My guess is that alancregeen is possibly encountering the Machine Format issue, and NOT the preset connector setting issue, because he mentioned "DST stitch size" in a previous post, and I am 100% sure that the DST format is one of those that trims by jumps. So, if you're using DST format, you should select "Tajima" machine, and ensure the "Trim by Jumps" setting in Machine Format Values matches the setting on your machine.

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30 Jun 2008 10:16 PM Alert 
Hi Delfus

Thanks for the reply, i came to the same conclusion this morning after reading all the help possible in the machine manual and Deco help

Just have to try and see if has done it, also try the option of a trim/jump code matching  the dst number on the  machine.

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Alan
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02 Jul 2008 10:41 AM Alert 
To make the program cut between individual letters ...
Move the letters, slightly different than the program sets the letters. After you move the letters the program will cut.
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22 Jul 2008 12:46 AM Alert 
I have tried moving the letters but as soon as i put them back i get the stitch again.

I cant understand why this is causing me so many problems, and why they havent added a button to add trims, like in the full es version.
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