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Subject: increase the width of a satin column?

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stitchgear User is Offline
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05/13/2008 4:01 AM Alert 
Is there some way to increase the stitch length (width) of a satin colum that's been converted from artwork?  Basically I've run into a couple of spots on designs that I want to be satin but by default are being converted as a "split satin" by DS.  In my old software I could easily just increase the stitch length to overcome this problem but I can't find a way to do it in DS.  Any Suggestions?
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05/14/2008 10:44 AM Alert 
hi
Software may convert to split satin by default if the column is generally wider than whats an acceptable embroidery standard. You should have the parameter setting to uncheck that option for split in the satin column settings.

The resulting satin column should then show no split...you will however probably have long stain stitches.

I dont have DS, but use ES2006..I can take a look at the file if you can save as EMB or dst..
Im not sure what you mean by wanting to make the stitches longer to overcome the problem..Splits only really happen when a satin width is really wide..

email the file: efect@mweb.co.za
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05/27/2008 12:03 AM Alert 
This is a major problem with DS.  The software defaults to 6mm and there is no way to change that.  This presents significant problems with monogramming and embroidery designs which contains objects of satin stitches wider than the default.  6mm is your largest choice which makes this program useless.  The other issue is the lack of fill stitches.  This program has only 1 fill stitch.  We are very disappointed with this software and consider it a very expensive demo.  We feel that Wilcom has deliberately limited the functionality of this software and we can not recommend it for any purpose.
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05/27/2008 11:55 PM Alert 
I won't say that I'm disapointed with DS yet but the program does seem to be somewhat uneven in it's features.  I've been using a program called Autodigitizing since I started my business with only a home machine and there are things that DS does very easily that were impossible with that software but then I run into this issue with the width of satin stitches which seems to be impossible with DS and it was a 1 click fix in my old software.  Hopefully the X4 version will address some of these issues.
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06/04/2008 5:27 AM Alert 
I am relatively new to using this program, but the satin stitch CAN be set to any width you wish. If you used the "convert" tool, the program will automatically convert large areas to tatami fill (this can be altered to any number of fills using the object properties docker). I think you need to digitize the pattern manually in the Embroidery window and read the manual on the "Satin Tool" section of the online manual--it makes a point about turning off the "Auto Spacing" check box when "Satin" is selected as the "fill" on the object properties docker. The program is not as intuitive as some simpler digitizing programs, but I have been able to manually digitize satin stitches longer than 6mm (the slide bar goes much higher) without splitting. If you contact the Wilcom Support in your country, they can go online and connect to your compuer with the program running and will help you free of charge. So far, I have found their support people in both Australia and the US to be extremely helpful.
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06/05/2008 9:35 PM Alert 
Tatterscreek,

DecoStudio e1 actually has plenty of fill types, not just 1. You can fill using Satin, Tatami, Zigzag, E-Stitch, or pick from a hell lot of Motifs. You can change the fill using the Stitch Types toolbar or Object Properties.

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06/06/2008 5:08 AM Alert 

In reading our earlier posts, I see that DOH wasn't exactly clear on the frustrations we have had with this software.  In trying to use the monogramming in Deco I have had lettering sized to 3.5mm convert to split satin.  I have opened .dst files and had satin objects within a logo convert to split satin that were way under 6mm.  I'm not trying to do a lot of satin stitching over 6mm.  The frustration has been needing to have the control over whether Deco decides that a satin stitched object needs to be split.  After posting in several forums, Wilcom contacted us and did a very good job of listening to me as a customer and acknowledged that that was a common complaint.  They have informed me that the ability to turn the split satin stitch on or off is planned for the first update.  That is great news!!!  As far as fill stitches are concerned, I am very aware of the different options for stitches.  I printed the entire online manual and have spent a lot of time reading and experimenting with this program.  Again, DOH was trying to say that our frustration was with the fact that the tatami fill stitch is only in one design.  If I want to create something with a large fill area, I may want to have more than one look to the design.   I may want a diamond pattern, or waves, or whatever the design calls for and with Deco, I don't have that.  A motif pattern is not going to give me a complete coverage fill, if that is what I am looking for.  Again, I am being told that Wilcom is looking at offering a package for sale offering different fill patterns for Deco.  That did not come from Wilcom directly, but from the vendor we purchased the software from.  So take that for what it is worth.  I have not been successful in manually digitizing from Deco yet and turning out something I could be proud of but I'm still experimenting and learning and trying new things, so maybe in time. 

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06/06/2008 7:21 AM Alert 
I think it would be extremely helpful to those of us trying to learn to use this program if Wilcom would provide a list of known issues and let us know if they are going to be addressed and when.  I would hope that some of these issues would be supplied as a downloadable program upgrade to ver. e1 given the cost of this program.  This may be the single most important factor in my decision whether to continue learning the program.  Most computer programs fix the bugs in their software without penalizing the customer and the upgrades are done to ultilize the newer program formats on which the software is run (e.g., Windows XP Version, Windows Vista Version) and keep up with the chipset evolution.  If the program says it does something (like read and write .pes files) then the software bug should be corrected without requiring the customer to buy an upgrade.  I played with the satin stitch last night and I see exactly what you are talking about--how annoying!
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