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01/09/2007 4:22 AM Alert 
I am a user of the ES 2006 lastest version. I am having problems with the objects property box at times. I will select an object in the box but it does not highlight the object in the work area. I have tried to trick the program by cutting and pasteing my work to a new screen but that doesn't work. Usually it takes a fresh reboot to solve the problem. It seems as if I am running low on memory but my computer has a Pentium 4 processor running a 3.2 ghz and 1 gig of RAM. I would think that would be more than adequate. Also, I am getting frequent lockups of the program. When I restart, it will display recovered files from weeks past but not the work I was doing when it locked up. From time to time I will go to the recovery folder and delete the recovered files so I won't have 20 or so recovered files to sort through on the reboot. Any suggestions?
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01/09/2007 9:25 AM Alert 
Hi Onrie,

Have you tried the latest service pack for Wilcom ES? (SP3) it is available from the Wilcom Support Center www.wilcom.com.au/support.

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01/09/2007 2:08 PM Alert 
I've experienced the same problem. Selecting an object from the object list highlights the object in the work area initially. After working in ES awhile this function stops working. After calling the folks at Wilcom America I was told that this is the nature of ES 2006 because it uses a lot of memory. I, too, have 1 gig of RAM. They told me I should upgrade to 2 gigs. They also advised me to minimize the number of programs running while using ES 2006 to maximize the available memory for Wilcom.
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01/09/2007 8:39 PM Alert 
Hi guys

I think your problems maybe solved by SP3 . From the readme file:

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"Improvements in Wilcom ES 2006 SP3

General system speed
In the current ES 2006 release, customers report problems with response time while digitizing. Speed problems have been identified when tabbing from inputs and runs, opening designs, using travel tools, and opening the Color-Object List. These problems have now been rectified.

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Object selection state in Color-Object List and Design Window
With the current ES 2006 release, the selection states of objects in the Color-Object List and Design Window do not always correspond. If objects are grouped and then ungrouped, they stay highlighted in the Color-Object List but fail to stay highlighted in the Design Window. This problem has now been rectified."

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01/10/2007 3:06 AM Alert 
Brendan, I installed the SP3 months ago. Any other suggestions.
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01/12/2007 8:20 AM Alert 
Another bug in Wilcom Designer ES 2006. Sometimes I'll be working in Wilcom Designer when Wilcom Design Explorer starts up all by itself. Is their a service pack 4 being developed to solve these annoying problems?
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01/12/2007 9:33 AM Alert 
Hi Onrie,

Support will contact you to run through some questions to identify the cause of your reports.

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01/17/2007 4:43 AM Alert 
I would like to address a bug in the true type conversion tools. In our business, we use the Curlz font quite a bit. In the true type converson window, I set the properties to turning satin. The problem is, the lower case c does not have turning satin stitches. Is there a simple fix for this?
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01/17/2007 5:51 AM Alert 
I've been trying to download true sizer but instalation never goes more than 19%.I have 1 gb memory and almost new PC.
thank you.
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01/17/2007 6:43 AM Alert 
Hi Onrie,
Do you have Turning Strokes selected in your TTF Conversion dialogue box selected.
I have tested here on my system and it works here. However, we find Curlz is a difficult font in a couple of areas.
1. The serifs are too narrow at the lower font sixes 10 mm etc and some of the vertical strokes have very narrow column width.
2. Where some of the strokes of the letters join the really butt in to each other rather than merge and some vertical strokes extend too far into the serif eg lower case n. Remember TTF have been created for print and the accurate placement of nodes is not necesary in teh print medium as the vetor shape is filled with ink.
In embroidery node placement is all important as this determines sitch direction and the location of objects/elements of a letter.

As it happens we have an "embrodiery version" of Curlz as anesa file avaliable for sale at (copy and paste the following address into your browser)http://www.logopunch.com/proddetail.php?prod=101035

I hope this helps
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John

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01/18/2007 5:11 AM Alert 
John, yes I do have turning strokes selected. That is why I can't understand why it does not create turning satin stitches in the lower case Curlz c. I have the ability to re-digitize the whole Curlz alphabet but if the true type conversion was working like it is suppose to, I wouldn't have to re-digitize those particular characters like the Curlz c and the Tinker Toy S (uppercase). Thank you for your comments,
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01/18/2007 2:06 PM Alert 
If you use a font alot in you business (like curlz) then you should digitize it anyway...
In fact when ever I find a font i believe i will use later i set-up a template page (with the whole alphabet (from the TTF)) and punch the letters in there so i gradually aquire the whole thing over time.

I have well over 100 fonts in my archive. (mostly only half punched)
As for true type font conversion:
I think this whole thing (industry wide) is in a very early stage of development.
And wilcom stands in good stead compared to whats out there... but having said this alot more development is needed. And I never use these auto conversion funtions myself...

My main gripe with auto conversions (especially with regard to fonts) is that the process will all the auto conversion systems out there is on the whole a fairly "formula" type operation...

I.E. -> input, tweak a few settings, - - - -> output.....>

And I believe this is all very well and good for newbie users who dont want to actively guide the system.... and who expect the system to think for them....

But breaking up shapes into satin objects is not easy for a computer to do and to do well this task requires a litte thought...

And for people who think as a matter of course...its quite easy to just glance at it and see what needs doing or what has not been done particularly well...

But for a computer (which is totally incapable of thought) even a little thought is a big ask indeed, so it relys on complicated math which is a poor substitute for thought.

So the results can be a bit askew if the fonts are quite complex....

In short foolproof TTF conversion is not something you would expect a computer to be able to do well.
To achieve this requires a person to guide the process....
And this will no-doubt happen in time.....


David Hewitt (Digitizer/Director)
Planet Embroidery (Australia)

web: http://www.planetembroidery.com.au/
email:digitizing@planetembroidery.com.au
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01/21/2007 7:18 AM Alert 
Dear Mr. Zahir Ali

I am not much familiar with this software, i am looking forward to learn, can you help me about this.

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tariqchauhdary@yahoo.com
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02/11/2007 7:29 PM Alert 
When I have saved a sequin design for 5 mm sequin in DST format and I open the file the sequin always comes up as a 6.8mm sequin. How can I change that?
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02/12/2007 11:10 AM Alert 
cannot open True sizer now that I have downloaded it
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02/12/2007 9:54 PM Alert 
When I have saved a sequin design for 5 mm sequin in DST format and I open the file the sequin always comes up as a 6.8mm sequin. How can I change that?
Maritha
The DST file format itself does not contain any information for the size of the sequin, so the software has no way of knowing what the original size of your sequin was.

It's generally a good idea to save your original design in EMB format and keep the EMB, because that stores everything including sequin sizes (see the "DST Files" thread in the Digitizing forum).
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02/13/2007 5:01 AM Alert 
I do save the designs in EMB as well but if a DST format can not read the sequin size but I need to use a dst format to bring to the machine does that mean the machine does not have to read the size of the sequin?
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02/14/2007 8:59 PM Alert 
Posted By Maritha on 02/13/2007 5:01 AM
I do save the designs in EMB as well but if a DST format can not read the sequin size but I need to use a dst format to bring to the machine does that mean the machine does not have to read the size of the sequin?
Maritha

That's correct, the machine does not have to (well, cannot)read the size of the sequin, since the information is not available in any DST file. The machine only knows the stitch positions of the sequins.
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02/15/2007 2:35 AM Alert 
Thanks for the helpful information
One other question. Is there an easy way to fill up a large area with sequin?
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02/22/2007 4:19 AM Alert 
I did find out how to ofset an object with a spiral run and than convert it to sequin but this is an awful way to fill an area with siquin. I would like to know if there if an other way besides this or drawing just lines for the sequin. If not I would like to know if Wilcom is working on getting a sequin fill in the next version of ES.
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03/07/2007 7:16 PM Alert 
If Wilcom ES can not show the correct sequin size used when opening it in DST format, how would a customer for which I would digitize sequin and sent it over in DST format know how the design really looks?
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03/09/2007 3:23 AM Alert 
When I go to save a design to the embroidery disk (file/embroidery disk/save as) and the design is on the floppy already, ES2006 (w/ SP3) notes that the design is already there puts up a dialog box and asks if I should overwrite. If I say Yes, instead of overwriting, it just adds the new one to the floppy. So, I end up having two designs with the same name on the floppy! This is a Barudan floppy with the .Uxx file extensions. As long as I note the file extension, I can determine which file to use, but generally I use the filename to later select the file and load it on the machine... and without remembering the proper extension, it becomes hit and miss... and a source of confusion.

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03/12/2007 6:25 AM Alert 
Maritha,

To answer your question about "is there an easy way of filling a large area with sequin" Yes there are a few. A little trick is take a fill or any other object with a wide stitch spacing and convert it to a run, then you will be able to add sequins to it.

Greg K
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I am a Wilcom Authorized Trainer & Distributor; you can find me in the Training; in the Training School section, Categories "US"
or Email me Unique@cablespeed.com
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