brodyrkort  Posts: 21 Location: Sweden
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| 03/11/2007 3:46 AM |
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| When is next service pack due, I would really like to use my photoflash and branchingtool to its fullest.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/12/2007 5:29 AM |
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| What kind of problems are you having? |
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brodyrkort  Posts: 21 Location: Sweden
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| 03/12/2007 7:03 PM |
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Hi
photoflash doesnt work and when I use branching in large objects it makes unwanted trims between underlay and overlay. |
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basabi  Posts: 146 Location: Tornesch near Hamburg, Northern Germany
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| 03/12/2007 8:51 PM |
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Hi Martin,
I have good experience to work around the trims you are referring to by extending the value of "trim after if next connector xx mm" in special tab "connectors" and "inside object" for those auto-branched objects. |
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/14/2007 3:51 AM |
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Hi byodyrkrt,
As for the photo flash: It is best to select the Fill type before you start. Under the fill tab select "Photo Satin" then do the step as needed. If you forgot to select the type before you stated then; after you've boxed your image make sure it is selected, go to your fills tab and select "Photo Satin" from the drop down as the type and then click the generate icon ( G key).
As for the Branching:
Is this auto underlay or your run stitches that is under the top stitches? You should remove all the run stitches before you use branching. You can send me the EMB file and let me know the step you are taking and I'll try to help you with this.
Then you can tell Wilcom that I was a big help (just kidding) ;^)
P.S. To all readers, I am a Wilcom Authorized Trainer; you can find me in the Training; in the Training School section, Categories "US"
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brodyrkort  Posts: 21 Location: Sweden
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| 03/15/2007 8:50 PM |
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Hi unique
and thanks a lot - biig help - photoflash works like a charm.
On to the more difficult problem, the branching... Sending you a file, as you wished, no run stich, trims where I dont want them and no trims where I want them. Say i want trims between the blocks but not inside them. Can you solve this. If so I stand impressed.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 3:22 AM |
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OK, No problem,
They are 3 objects that are not touching and should not be branched. You can move each entering and exit point to where you want them and then turn of your 'Tie Off' and 'Trim After' on the 'Inside Object' and turn on your 'Tie Off' and 'Trim After' on the 'After Object'.
But if you Must use your Branching on the none touching objects. I make this quick and not get in to detail. Select the branched objects and got to your 'Connections' tab select the 'Inside Object' from the pull down and change the 'If Next Connector >' to a higher number (5.50 mm) under the 'Trim After' section.
How did you like them Apples?
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 3:38 AM |
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Connectors are probably the area that most people don't understand and have the most problems. If you just sit back and think ' Inside Object' is all the Segments (parts that) that makes the Object and After Object is after the Complete Objects. Then you have what you want it to do inside or after Run or Jump and it will do them if the setting are met in the; Trim After, Tie In' and Tie Off. Did that make sense? Use your Travel buttons by Segment and Object and this may help you understand more. |
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basabi  Posts: 146 Location: Tornesch near Hamburg, Northern Germany
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| 03/16/2007 3:50 AM |
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Hi Greg,
I also played around with Martin's file trying to find a solution for his requirement of branching the none-touching complex fill objects without having trims inside each block but between the blocks. I also increased the inside settings for trim after as you suggest but did not find any value, which eliminates the trims inside the blocks but not the ones between them.
I then tried to insert manual trims between the blocks, but without luck.
I will start a new thread regarding the issue of the manual trim tool though.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 4:18 AM |
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| What do you mean you did not find any value. I selected the branched Object(s) and when to the 'Contectors' Tab and selected the 'Inside Object' from the drop down and changed the 'If Next Connector >" to '5.5mm' under the 'Trim After' section. and I now have only 3 trims in the hole design. It work here , It had 3 Trims 1 after each box and none between the underlay to the fill object. |
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basabi  Posts: 146 Location: Tornesch near Hamburg, Northern Germany
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| 03/16/2007 5:03 AM |
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Hi Greg,
yes, you are right, it seems, as if there only trims after each ofl the block shaped areas but when you look close in your edited file, it is correct between left and middle but not between middle and right.
Tie off is stitch # 6116 followed by jumps upto stitch # 5123. Stitch 5124 is still the last line of the middle block, last stitch in the middle block is # 6133, # 6134 is the first penetration of the right object. There is a connecting thread between those both stitches and I understood that Martin wanted no thread exactly at this position.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 5:52 AM |
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I'm sorry, I over looked that before attaching it. But after I ungroup the branched Object(s) and look at each object and check the Connectors under each area. The easy way is not to try and branch all objects that are not touching in one step and I can’t forget to say remove any run stitches that are under the cover (top) stitches. Do you drive to one a place with out stopping? No you have to look both ways at an intersection before crossing.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 5:52 AM |
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I'm sorry, I over looked that before attaching it. But after I ungroup the branched Object(s) and look at each object and check the Connectors under each area. The easy way is not to try and branch all objects that are not touching in one step and I can’t forget to say remove any run stitches that are under the cover (top) stitches. Do you drive to one a place with out stopping? No you have to look both ways at an intersection before crossing.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 5:52 AM |
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I'm sorry, I over looked that before attaching it. But after I ungroup the branched Object(s) and look at each object and check the Connectors under each area. The easy way is not to try and branch all objects that are not touching in one step and I can’t forget to say remove any run stitches that are under the cover (top) stitches. Do you drive to one a place with out stopping? No you have to look both ways at an intersection before crossing.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 5:52 AM |
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I'm sorry, I over looked that before attaching it. But after I ungroup the branched Object(s) and look at each object and check the Connectors under each area. The easy way is not to try and branch all objects that are not touching in one step and I can’t forget to say remove any run stitches that are under the cover (top) stitches. Do you drive to one a place with out stopping? No you have to look both ways at an intersection before crossing.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 5:52 AM |
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I'm sorry, I over looked that before attaching it. But after I ungroup the branched Object(s) and look at each object and check the Connectors under each area. The easy way is not to try and branch all objects that are not touching in one step and I can’t forget to say remove any run stitches that are under the cover (top) stitches. Do you drive to one a place with out stopping? No you have to look both ways at an intersection before crossing.
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/16/2007 7:00 AM |
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| Dejavu! I did not send that 5 times! |
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| 03/20/2007 2:51 AM |
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| 03/23/2007 10:41 PM |
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I would love to see branching for objects using the florentine effect - that was one of the main reasons I purchased and was very disappointed. Is this planned? Suz
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/24/2007 5:39 AM |
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Hi Sue,
What are you trying to do that would use branching with a large fill area with special effects? Why don't you brake up the branching into parts, this way you can keep the Florentine and any other special effects. It should only take an extra minute (if that) to do this and you will have the results that you want.
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| 03/24/2007 5:49 AM |
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Hi Greg,
I have tried using the branching on all sizes of objects with florentine and the object turns to a vector or disappears, or shifts dramatically when I do. I usually do use several small sections. I had read somewhere in the white papers way back, or maybe I was talking with someone from wilcom that branching won't work if you use the florentine effect? Because I do a lot of realistic designs and use shading, I use this type of effect on almost everything, so the brnaching is like a crisp apple sitting there on my toolbar that I can't touch. LOL
Suz
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| 03/24/2007 6:14 AM |
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Hi Greg - I realized I should have told you what version of Wilcom I'm using: V2006.0V SP3 8 Sep 2006 (115-3986) And here is the most recent design set I've done where I sure could have used the branching more than it let me! LOL http://bfc-creations.com/Designs500/569WinOrchHumr/index.html
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unique  Posts: 95 Location: Lansing, MI
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| 03/24/2007 6:23 AM |
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| Hi Suz
Yes, you can still use it. I use special effects allot on animals and still don't us the branching but I do reshape and move entering and exits. The wolf hair is mostly done with Florentine and some other effects and this is made for hats. So I'm still trying to figure out what you are trying to do. Can you email me the file and let me know what you are trying to do. And then I try to help solve what you are trying to do.
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| 03/24/2007 6:27 AM |
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I'm just trying to save time. I'm of course now doing anything with florentine or other effects manually by changing entry and exit points. I would like to be able to take - say the petals of a flower done with florentine - highlight them all, click branching and the sequencing is done. Branching works so wonderfully with so many things, but not the thing I use the most. I was told after I bought the program, that this would be addressed at some point. I'm hoping it is. Thanks - Suz |
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| 06/07/2007 6:24 AM |
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when i open wellcom es v9 ihave massege secutity device not found thanks |
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