minty
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| 19 Feb 2009 1:16 AM |
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Hi,
As a follow on from my previous post about machine format for Brother, I have saved as a dst then converted to a pes in True sizer. I am now finding my machine is cutting the big jump stitches but missing out on the jumps between words. I have checked the settings and it does show that there is a trim between the words but my machine is not picking it up.
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basabi
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| 19 Feb 2009 2:06 AM |
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Minty,
why did you open your dst in TrueSizer and then saving to pes?
I thought, you where working with EmbroideryStudio1.5 or ES 2006 or lower? Isn't that the case?
If you are working with one of those ES versions there is no need to go into TrueSizer at all. You also could save to pes directly out of any of those ES versions.
But I believe that pes does not hold trim commands - hope that somebody else can confirm this, since I can't test it myself.
Is the machine correctly trimming when loading the dst into it?
I suppose so, all my PR600 customers working with one or the other Version of ES are saving their designs 1. to emb on their hard drive and 2nd, just when they are about to stitch, to dst on the PR600 and never claimed that trims are not executed.
For your understanding:
- the dst-format does not "know" a trim command but usually 3 follow-up jumps/empty jumps make the machine trim
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- each conversion from one stitch based format to another one will end up most probably in loss of quality.
Another thing you can check: under machine/machine format values make sure that the figure for jumps to be output as trims is set to 3
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minty
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| 19 Feb 2009 3:12 AM |
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Hi, thanks for your reply, I have not had my machine long and as I understand it, it only reads pes files.
So from what you are saying is can read dst. I will try a design in a mo.
If it does work then I will be happy (but not!) as i have told my husband that it only reads pes files and I hate being wrong!
Thanks for your help
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basabi
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| 19 Feb 2009 6:23 AM |
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Hi Claire,
I searched a little further, you will be able to read in the dst-file. I found a German language flyer explaing the features of the PR600. pes, dst and phc (never heard about that before) are the file formats wich will be accepted by the machine
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draig
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| 20 Feb 2009 4:10 AM |
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I have always sent the designs down to my PR600 as dst files, when I've sent a few as .pes some of the trimming codes have not worked, since then I've stuck to .dst with no problems.
Sharon
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johnath1
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| 19 Sep 2009 1:12 PM |
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Hi Minty:
I also have a pes machine (babylock emp6-same as PR600). I can save the file as a dst and the trims are fine. But the colors are a nightmare. If I start with 3 colors, when the design goes to the machine in dst there are 35 colors and none of them are correct. I understand that dst does not read or hold color information. I can use the production printout and assign the appropriate color the the appropriate needle but when the machine finished stitching it reverts to the 35 colors and I have to start all over again with the production sheet. If you have only one color it is not a problem. What do you suggest. Thanks.
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| 20 Sep 2009 9:09 PM |
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delfius
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| 21 Sep 2009 9:43 PM |
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johnath1, I have an idea but it is a long shot...
When you save as PES, you get an option for "PES Version:"
- try selecting PES V4.0 - does that solve your problem with trims?
- if not, try selecting PES V1.0 - does that solve your problem with trims?
I'm guessing maybe the trim code was implemented in later PES versions, and by picking an old version without trims, you might hopefully run some backward compatibility code on the machine firmware that magically adds the trims for you.
Let me know if it works. 
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tommyfilth
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| 31 May 2010 9:05 AM |
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Has there been any further information on this problem, it is really annoying to have a function that cannot be used.
I have tried anything that is out on the web in the way of information. One other forum has suggested to "Save As" to the embroidery disk as an option, but the formats for Brother do not include a .PES and simply changing the format does not work.
post if you have found a workaround or solution.
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delfius
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| 02 Jun 2010 8:54 PM |
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For some models, you may have to set up the trim length on the machine to match the software (e.g. if you have all your lettering trimming 2mm connectors, make sure the machine is configured to trim 2mm jumps).
Or you can just go the trusty workaround of saving to DST instead of PES (if your Brother reads DST).
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lollieconn
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| 03 Jun 2010 4:55 PM |
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For BMP/PR600 models you can work around by changing each letter to a different color in your software, but NOT actually changing the colors it actually sews out on the garment, this forces the machine to make a trim. OR, in your software you can arrange the letters to sew out of normal sewing order, thus also forcing the machine to make a trim. BMP/PR600 models accept dst & pes. I hope that I have been able to explain what I mean well enough for you to understand.
An EXCELLENT free group to join if you have this kind of machine is:
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lollieconn
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| 03 Jun 2010 5:00 PM |
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Sorry about that, for some reason, the post won't show the link for the Yahoo Group. It's the
PR600-EmbPro_Machines group, just search on Yahoo, we have almost 4000 very knowledeable & helpful members. Lollie |
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jthellman
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| 11 Jun 2010 1:11 PM |
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I have talked at length with the technitions at Wilcom at length about the trim problems between ES and PES. Wilcom was first started about 20 years ago as a commercial software mainly for Tajima. At that time, the PES market was very small and Wilcom decided not to include PES as a commercial machine and therefore the trim command conversion from EMB to PES was left out. Later, when PES was becoming more popular it was not cost effective to change Wilcom to include PES trims recognition. I have talked with three people at Wicom Amrica the they all said the most effective way to change this it to write or email directly to Wilcom in Australia. If enough people contact them they will put in the transition.
I have a PES machine and sending the file as a DST will enable all Wilcom functions including the trim command. However, DST does not recognize any color information so the colors are constantly a problem.
John
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flaviofire
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| 25 Oct 2010 11:52 AM |
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in wilcom es 65 2009 (machine format TAJIMA) :
1>save as .emb
2>download wilcom true size 1.5 ,then use this program to change for pes v.6
works in my brother PR620 ...
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femmes1900
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| 24 Jan 2011 2:54 AM |
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WCsteve65
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| 26 Jan 2011 7:46 AM |
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| Well I spoke to Brother and was told that their “home” machines do not have the ability to import the codes from other programs. Only their way higher-end models allow this. This in not published anywhere and you need to call Brother to find out if your model can. I am not sure if this goes for other manufactures but BOOOOOOOOOOO on BROTHER! If you have a computer format language that you encode your designs in THEN that language should not be filtered on models and should be consistent over all machines that use it. |
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